It’s Called “Personal” Finance for a Reason

Personal Finance is one of those things that’s different for just about everyone.  Sure, some parts can be strikingly similar like saving money and spending less than you earn, but for the most part, it’s a different beast for every person or family.  One family may not value things that their friends do, and it will reflect in their spending habits and money management.  I’ve been thinking a lot lately about one thing that I did that flew in the face of all the personal finance advice that I have read and seen, and I’d like to go into depth more about why it has worked out well for me.

The decision to buy a car will confront all of us at some point, and if you’re in your 20s like me, it’s probably the most expensive thing that you will buy until you buy a house (excluding that education that we took out loans for).  Due to this, there is TONS of advice out there for people who are looking to buy a car, related to how much they should spend, what capabilities they need and whatnot.  Most of it is great advice for 95% of the population, and if you follow it, you’ll end up just fine.  The biggest spokesperson for some of this advice is a  titan of personal finance, a person who (some believe) stands below, but quite close to the big man (or woman) upstairs: Dave Ramsey.

Dave has a lot to say about cars, and for good reason.  During the time when Dave was losing all his money, there was 1 thing he felt like he absolutely had to keep, and it wasnt his home.  It was his Jaguar.  To keep up appearances that people had expected of him, he felt he NEEDED to have the jag, even though it was a huge money pit for him.  Dave learned a valuable lesson as the car was (I think) repossessed some time later.  Dave is now completely against the buying of a new car for anyone at any time (unless they can pay cash, I’d assume).  This is because most vehicles typically lose a large percent of their value after you take it home from the dealer (its around 30% I believe).  This, coupled with the american habit of wanting a new car every few years means that you’re borrowing to pay for something that will lose much of it’s value right away and will stay at that lower value until the typical consumer trades it in for a new one, and the process starts over.  Dave calls this a “Stupid Tax” , meaning that you only pay the tax if  you’re stupid.  For 95% of the population, I think Dave is completely right.  If they took this advice, they would probably be much better off buying a car that is a year or 2 old.

My issue with this is that it’s a blanket statement, and many of you who make blanket statements know that they are most likely going to be eaten at some point.  If you say X always leads to Y, you are begging for someone to prove you wrong.  In my case, Dave’s advice wasn’t the most applicable in my situation, and I feel like he left out a few of those things that were present in my situation that are not present in everyone’s situation, and I’ll list them below with a bit of explanation.

  1. Dave Says that you should buy a used car because you’re going to trade it in a few years down the road.  What I’m assuming he means by this is that you’re not going to ” drive it until the wheels fall off ” and the car absolutely wont go another mile.  Who could blame you, anyway?  You could end up driving around a 25 year old car.  I was taught that you bought a new car if you could afford one, and you drove it for 15 years or more. My parents have done this for as long as I can remember, and I picked it up from them.  If you buy and hold a new car, a new car isnt a bad purchase, it’s just a purchase like any other.  You’ll lose a lot of value in the beginning (but it’s only paper value), but if you plan on rolling in the car until you’ve got to take it to the scrap pile yourself, who cares if it loses some value 30 minutes after you bought it?
  2. It’s also common knowledge that your car will depreciate after you drive it off the lot, and you’ll be upside down (owe more than  you can sell the car for) for the next year or so.  This is true for most cars but not for trucks.  Trucks are (no-no-)notorious for holding their value years down the road.  When I was test driving vehicles, I test drove a truck that was 3 model years old (it was a 2007) that was fairly nice with some extras, but nothing terribly fancy.  They were trying to sell it for about 3500 less than what they wanted for that same truck that was brand new.  Curious to see how my truck was holding it’s value, I checked it on kbb.com recently.  I don’t recall my exact sales price (but it was less than $25,000) but the value of my truck currently is $22,000 and the total cost of my loan was somewhere in the mid to high 23′s.  As it sits right now, If I sold the truck, I could make approximately 3500 on it, because I’ve been paying a small bit extra each month, and because the value didn’t tank when I drove it home.
  3. My future.  I went to the readers of Debt Free Adventure and got advice similar to what I’ve listed above.  It was all great advice, it just did not take into account one of the most important things about money: My (or your) personal future goals.  In the future, I would like to do a few things, most of which involve needing a truck or at the very least, something with high ground clearance and 4 wheel drive.  Where I live, 4 wheel drive is also almost a requirement due to adverse weather.  Along with possibly using this truck for a business that I’d like to create, I’d also like to purchase some land and work it.  I’m thinking of raising some sort of animals or growing alfalfa, but I have not really decided.  This is something I really want with my life and I know it’s in the future, so I figured why not get a truck, drive it around nice and new for a while, then when I purchased land and started a business, turn it into a work truck.  Whenever I see one of those really old beat up trucks on the road, I tell myself that soon my truck will be beat up and super awesome like the one I’m looking at.

The way that I see it, I made a pretty good decision and was able to balance my needs and wants and fly in the face of some sound financial principles.  Even though this is still debt and I still don’t like it, It sure beats waking up in the middle of the night wondering if my car will start so that I can get to work later that morning.

So readers, do you think I’m in an alright spot considering I broke a cardnial rule of Personal Finance?

If you were in a similar situation where you were going against most of the PF literature that you have read, would you be able to go through with it?  Admittedly, mine was easier because ‘normal’ people buy new cars, and typically people who buy used ones get looked at like they’ve got 3 heads.  But the question remains, Could you still go it alone?

Debt Update

Hello readers.  It’s been a while, and I’m sorry.  I’ve been rather busy lately, but dont worry, I havent lost my focus.  It’s been almost a month since I’ve updated, so I’ll give you guys a bit of where I’m at (financially) right now.

STOP DIGGING!!! From http://budgetsiq.com/

Credit Cards – This is where I’ve been focusing my debt repayment efforts, and have dedicated the majority of my spare funds in this direction.

Citi Card – $2,492.42 ($130) This card has not made much progress, as I’ve been focusing my efforts on the others.  It’s got a 0% rate until the end of May.

Chase WaMu Card – $0 – !!!! This card has been paid off, charged up, and paid off again, and now I’m done with it.  It’s been such an up and down with this ride due to my vehicle issues, but now is paid off, and I dont see any large expenses coming like I did the last time I paid this card off. (calling Mr. murphy, please spare me from your law, k thanks)

Chase Southwest Card – $0 – !!!! Just like the card above it, it has been paid off before, until I did something stupid, and charged it back up again.  But, As of yesterday, It’s completely free, and I’m enjoying my progress for a minute while I plot the destruction of my next foe, Citi Card.

The credit cards have been my main focus, but I still have other outstanding debts.  They are listed below:

Direct Loan Student Loan – ($7,797) First student loan

Department of Education Student Loan - ($ 3,150.32) Another Student Loan

Great Lakes Student Loan - ($13,269) Another Student Loan

Ford Motor Company ($20,874) Truck Loan

I know how I ended up that much in the hole re: student loans, but really, federal government, can’t I just make 1 payment, to 1 group? You’re all with the DOE. UGH!  I know that I could consolidate them, but the largest balances are at very low rates (~2%) and the smallest balance is the highest at 6.8%.  It looks to be next on the hit list after the Citi Card.

Total Debt: $45,091

As far as the truck goes, I checked Kelly Blue book for a value on my truck.  Because I’ve been making extra payments (~$35) every month, I’m not upside down on the car.  I have a feeling this has more to do with the fact that it’s a truck (they are notorious for holding their value) than with what I’ve been applying to my principal extra each month, but hey, I’ll take what I can get.

I’ve been extremely busy lately because I’ve taken Dave Ramsey’s Advice and kept my second job to get out of debt faster.  The last update I did, I was $32,090, and that was before I took out the car loan!  By Mid december (when I bought the car) I was easily above ~50k in debt, but thankfully I was sick of it before that, and had been climbing to the top (a level playing field) for a few months at that point.

Finally, I feel like I can start making some serious headway with my remaining debt, as my snowball starts to roll down hill faster and gain more snow (which, by the way, is falling outside my house right now).  Soon, I’ll be debt free, but I may not be putting all of my future income towards debt removal……Tune in soon to find out my plan once my credit cards are paid off!

Do You Want A Bailout?

I frequently hear a commercial for this organization that aids people in getting out of debt.  It goes something like this:

“Overwhelmed by credit card debt? are you aware of the stimulus plan to re-energize the economy? Where is the bailout for normal people who need relief from credit card debt? The president gave bailouts to the big banks, the mortgage companies and the auto industry?  Well, does this make you wonder where the bailout is for normal people who are burdened by credit card debt? Do YOU Need a bailout? Well, call us, and we can help you get out of debt quickly and easily, without filing for bankrupcy.”

Carrying a balance on your credit card is not a good thing to do, but it happens before you realize it.  If you’ve always paid off the bill, and then one month, you are unable to make the complete payment, it starts like that and then just builds from there.  The card already has a balance, and spending money on the card is easier than saying no and saving money to get out of debt, so, Why not? Companies are getting bailed out all the time, why shouldnt the real people get bailed out?

I also frequently see in the news (or on facebook) “Cancel student loan debt to stimulate the economy

The proposal is similar.  The plan notes that the government has paid a very large amount of money to different compaines because of thier bad behavior, and that money should go to the students to forgive thier student loans.  If the loans were discontinued, the students would use thier extra monthly money to stimulate the economy in some form, and it would be a better idea than supporting the auto industry, the banking industry and AIG.  So, Why shouldnt they get a bailout?

This situation is much trickier, however.  Alot of students end up taking on ALOT of debt for school, and I dont think they are really able to comprehend what they are signing at the time.  They are 17/18, and are jaded with the prospect of college.  After all, they’ve heard all thier life that if they go to college, it will land them a good job when they are done.  So, using this knowledge, they sign up for loans that are offered to them, figuring that when they graduate they will find a good job and be able to payback thier loans, no matter what profession they chose.  If they chose to follow thier heart and do something in the arts or public service, or if they decided to go into business.  Here’s a news flash to all the kids entering college, in college, about to graduate from college or who have recently graduated: Life is not that rosy, and you are fortunate if you find a job immediately after college, and even more so in times like these. It’s difficult to concieve at this point, but college is no longer the automatic ticket to the “good job and better life” that it used to be.   There have been stories on NPR and in the New York Times on this.  I encourage you to read them.

These are a few example that I have found of  ”regular people” who have decided they need a bailout.  Do they deserve one?  Well, to put it quite frankly, no.  The people who are overwhelmed with credit card debt, it’s the fault of spending more than they have that got them into credit card debt, and the only way to get them out is to spend less than they earn to repay what they owe.

The student loan situation is a bit stickier.  What 18 year old is able to comprehend the amount of debt they are taking on?  Reguardless, they should still work dilligently to pay off thier debt, no matter how unglamorous thier job seems to be.

So, do you need a bailout?  I cant say this for sure, but I can bet that there’s someone out there, in a situation similar to or worse than yours, and is still struggling and toiling away silently.  They havent asked for a bailout because they dont feel like they need one.  They are aware that hard work will get them on thier feet, and they may get  some things to fall thier way, but arent counting on it.

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