Suspicious Activity

While I havent talked about it much on this blog, I’ve had a financial change of heart since I paid off my credit cards.  When I was paying them off, I was totally against myself using them, and if anyone else cared what I thought, I was against them using credit cards as well.  After I paid them off, I was strictly debit card for about a year – which was nice, because I couldnt spend what I didnt have, and I didnt have to keep a bunch of cards in my wallet.  After managing my finances successfully for about a year, I started reading about miles and points, and how to use credit cards to help you collect lots of frequent flyer miles.  If there’s one thing I like, it’s travel, and if there’s one thing I dont care for, it’s airplane ticket prices.  I eased my way back into the credit card world, getting airline miles cards and making sure I could pay off the balance every month.  After earning my first 75k miles, I was hooked.  I moved on to more cards and more deals, racking up hundreds of thousands of points along the way (I even paid for our honeymoon tickets with points earned from credit cards).  After a while of sound financial management, I began to see credit cards for what I think they are – a tool.  Just like a rope, you can easily hang yourself with it, but it can help you climb walls too, if you use it right.  When I was paying lots of interest money to credit cards, I saw them as a noose, but when I got into the “payoff your balance every month club” I saw them more as a tool.  This has also been a way for me to even the score (In my mind anyway – I doubt they give a crap) – the more benefits that I can score while not paying interest, the more I can make back the interest that I paid them for 5 or so years.  Best deal so far, a 1,300 dollar ticket for 15,000 points and 22 bucks in fees.

During my credit card change of heart though, one thing that I did like about the benefits of liability if there were unauthorized purchases on the account.  With a credit card, the bank will pay the merchant and open an investigation, and with a debit card, the funds are already gone from your account, and you have to wait until the investigation is over until you get your money back.  Unfortunately, this happened to me recently.  Here’s what happened:

Yesterday afternoon, I got a text message from chase saying there was suspected fraud on my account.  I thought the text was fake, but checked mint anyway and it didnt show anything pending, so I figured it was (they listed an amount of $150 even, which I thought was highly odd).  I found it super odd, because I still had the card in my pocket, and had for quite some time.  Later at night, I got a phone call from what was supposed to be chase, but they didnt leave a message – again, I thought it was fake, but I did make a note about their persistence and made a note to call them in the morning.  So I gave them a call, and the rep did say that there had been some unauthorized purchases on the account and sent me to the fraud department.  Apparently, someone in Jersey had decided to go on a little shopping spree on my dime – spending 300 at JC Penny, 150 at H&M and an unknown amount at Victorias Secret.  Obviously, this person was high class (kidding….).

These were relatively easy for me to confirm, because H and I have been on a bit of a spending fast since we got back from our honeymoon – I had used the card a grand total of 2 times all of august (when normally, it’s my go-to).  The last charges were in Bangkok, the next one was in Tokyo, and the final one was in Colorado.  Other than that, I havent really spent much since we have been back.  After confirming that those were the last of my charges, I asked the rep how this could have happened.  She was not really interested in giving me a concrete answer because she didnt know, but she did tell me that a card was presented at all the locations, so she suspected someone got my information somehow, and then began using my card.  She suspected that the number was copied somewhere such as a gas station (impossible) or something where they had loaded a number storing software on the machine.  I guess it happens to everyone from time to time, and I’m just glad they were on top of it (though I probably would have figured it out within 48 hours).

One thing that I did want to point out though, is that if this was a debit card and not a credit card, they would have tied up my $700+ dollars for who knows how long.  I only keep enough in my checking account every month to cover the automatic payments that come out of there, so this would have certainly caused an overdraft at some point, if they had not been able to return my funds promptly.  However, with a credit card, it was the banks cash that was tied up (and they dont give 2 shits about 700 bucks), and I was not liable at all, and got to keep all my cash.  This is probably one of my favorite benefits of credit cards, and shockingly enough, I “use” this benefit about once every other year.  I’ve had fraud issues 3 times since 2007, and they have all been on credit cards – not risking my funds (writing that is making me wonder if I need to examine my own habits related to credit card usage)

Readers:  Has someone ever gotten a hold of your credit card and used the number?  Did they do anything interesting with it?  Was it resolved easily?

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  1. Wow, that’s crazy. We see these stories on the news and I thought they were more rare. I guess it’s not that difficult to clone a card. We rarely use the debit card for the same reason. At least Chase took care of you.

    • Oh i agree joe – they were great. THey had my file up and asked if it was me and I said no, and that was basically that. They took care of everything else.

  2. Oh that SUCKS! Sorry that happened. :-(

    I think the gem of this post was the basic rule of credit cards — they are a tool.: “Just like a rope, you can easily hang yourself with it, but it can help you climb walls too.” Couldn’t agree more. My wife and I pay ours off every month and slowly get cashback and points as we go along. If you pay off the balance every month, that cashback and points are basically free money. Which is awesome.

    • TB -
      It does suck that it happened, but it really wasnt that horrible to deal with, honestly. Just glad that I caught it quickly.
      I dont take cash back, but airline miles, which are awesome as well.

  3. My guess is your credit card number was stolen on one of your foreign transactions. It’s pretty common.
    When we had fraudulent transactions on a card (a few months after using it abroad- and the being the only place we’d used it), I had the fun of “arguing” with the fraud rep. The credit card company called me to ask about the suspicious activity. I said it wasn’t me. They transferred me to their fraud person, who proceeded to ask me if I was certain my husband hadn’t been in Texas and using the card every night for 3 nights to withdraw the exact same amount of cash every night. Since I live in Washington, I was able to tell them I was certain, but I thought it odd that they called me to warn me, but then didn’t really believe me that it wasn’t us.

    • you know, that was my initial thought, but most of the places that I spent out of the country were hotel chains that have international brands and I would suspect wouldnt want to piss off a loyal user.
      Glad that you were able to sort out your issue, but that sucks that they gave you a hard time.

  4. I’ve had this happen a couple of times. Thanks to the protection of my card, it never cost me more than an hour and a couple of forms.

    The last time, my card was used at Walmart in Puerto Rico. I wish I had been there instead of at home!

  5. I agree with you that I like credit cards for this protection. A couple months ago one of our cards was used in Mexico – ten purchases at one retailer, all for different amounts. Very strange. Chase eliminated 5 of them right away but didn’t realize the other 5 were also fraud…? But we got it all worked out in the end.

    • that’s odd. They went back pretty far with mine, in terms of number of transactions. I had not used the card for about 3 weeks, so there was some activity last weds, then not no until aug 1 from there.

  6. I have gone through this periodically, but not for a long time. BTW, I love the miles I earn with my credit card, particularly when I use them to travel over seas flying business or first class.

  7. This is exactly why we use credit cards. I hate the idea of carrying a lot of cash, too, because I feel so vulnerable with it on my person. And I’m one of those weird people who spends more if I have the convenience of using cash. Anyway, I haven’t had my identity stolen yet, but I love that I have that buffer before paying big bucks if someone steals my card.

  8. Happened to me a couple months back with my amex – it was resolved in literally 20 mins. Just one of the reasons I am a huge fan of American Express.

    The other is that I use it like a debit card meaning I HAVE to pay it back monthly.

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